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Poster: lobster12 Date: Oct 12, 2009 9:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The Dead on The Dead

Since there is always the debate on what the best Dead show was I was curious if the any of the band have ever commented on what they thought the best live gig was. Anyone know of any articles, or quotes?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 12, 2009 9:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

Perhaps Uncle Phil can help narrow it down a little:

USA Today 'Chat with Phil Lesh' June 26 2001

Seymour, Indiana: Phil, in your opinion what decade in Grateful Dead history would you consider the best?

Phil Lesh: The first: 1965-1974. Not necessarily the best, but the most exciting for me, because the most exploratory stuff was played then...


Medville, MA: Is there any particular Dead show or solo show that means more to you than some other?

Phil Lesh: Certain venues (the Greek, Red Rocks, MSG, Alpine) seem to bring out the magic...


Not relevant to your question but there was also this exchange:

Rochester, NY: Phil, Now that the Dead is officially dead; why not open the vault and let people digitally copy the great music? Thanks.

Phil Lesh: I think that's a great idea.

Got to agree with Phil on that one!

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Oct 12, 2009 9:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

It's funny, in all my reading of interviews and books, etc. the band and especially Garcia always underestimated their performances. As a group they tended to agree on evenings when the magic struck them onstage, yet after listening to a tape couldn't say why.

In my mind, Garcia was one of the greatest promoters of the 20th century. All of the rhetoric about never playing the same way twice and the music plays the band and going as far as naming a release "Without A Net" is suggestive of a musical Even Knievel show. Almost without exception he would suggest that he had no idea why anyone would take to the band's music. In a way, what he was suggesting is that there were a bunch of guys thrown haphazardly on a stage and forced to entertain large groups of people, and he was amazed that this experiment works out at all. We should all know better by now.

My curiosity is if anyone in the band recalls specific tours and why the either exceeded expectations or didn't live up to them. The first to come to mind for me, and just because it's legendary is the May run in 77. Did they have any sense of how tight the band was at that point? Did they have any reference point from '76 or before to compare it with? The answers might be out there, but I haven't caught up on my reading in a couple years.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Oct 12, 2009 4:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

These are some interesting thoughts about tours. There is an interview I think it's on you tube, and Weir and trey Anastasio are being interviewed somewhere in CT. They asked trey what got him into the dead and he pointed out it was a Hartford show from the 80's he went to. The interviewer asks Weir if he remembers and surprising he does, and points out it was released as a dicks pick. For sure I thought Weir would go to the "too many shows to remember" but he did not.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Oct 12, 2009 10:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

Amen to that - shamelessly disingenuous self-promotion at every turn, but I still love the guy!



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Poster: stratocaster Date: Oct 12, 2009 9:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

Josh Hauser of the Berkely Observer, October 1990...

Josh: "So, Jerry, we all hear about the certain venues that seem to bring out the magic, can you shed some light on this?

Jerry: "We've always loved crowds and places with alot of over-zealous security, so I would have to say that the Meadowlands is my favorite place to play...although Altamont had it's moments..."

Josh: "Wow, really?" Any particular shows that stand out as the best?"

Jerry: "Certainly, the boys and I have discussed this a number of times and it's pretty unanimous that the Boreal Ridge show in '85 was, by far, the best show...a pretty close second was a show that we did in Jamaica in '82..."

Josh: "That is very interesting, any thoughts about any of the big Winterland or Fillmore gigs or even the Veneta Fieldtrip of '72?"

Jerry: "hmmmmm, I don't recall the 72 trip to Veneta and I'll have to ask Phil about Winterland or Fillmore, I really don't remember anything special about those performances..."

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Oct 12, 2009 3:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

He is goofing on the interviewer ...


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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 12, 2009 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

Is he really?!? Shit! Wow, man! Thanks!! I never got that!!!

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Oct 12, 2009 3:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

Mr. Wordsmith, that is an appalling overuse of punctuation. You really should know better.

And my post was for the benefit of lobster, just in case he did not know better. I would never deign to tell you anything, as it appears that you already know all things ... except the proper use of punctuation, that is.

Oh, and: blow me!


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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Oct 12, 2009 3:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

Believe me, I know perfectly well how to employ punctuation, and, knowing this, I may fuck about with it at my pleasure. Did you really need to take two cracks at that dismal attempt at a smartassed riposte?

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Oct 12, 2009 4:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

No, I decided to be nice and edit out the really mean stuff. Something that obviously never ocurred to you.

You are usually one of the more moderate voices around here, so I re-read my original post to see if I could figure out set you off, and you know what? There is nothing - and my reply to your attack was more jovial than offensive. A person with a 6th grade reading comprehension level could tell you that - so you are just being an asshole for no particular reason.

It's obvious that something is up your ass, but I can promise you that it's not me. So go on home and kick your cat, or punch out your wife, or whatever it is that you usually do when you get in this mood, and leave me the fuck out of it, you dumb, nasty piece of shit.

And I edited THIS post so I could uncheck the notification box. I will not be reading any more of your vomit.



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Poster: He Live's Date: Oct 12, 2009 8:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

i was actually thinking about that this morning as i have been picking up b. jackson's book again recently and reading little bits....

i think they obviously made a Decision to not discuss specific shows, at least not in the sense of -- what was the best show of fall 73?

#1, they probably had no idea which one was the best one,
#2, could never even conceive of a consensus among band members and/or fans because,
#3, they were often told by many people they were great when they were pretty sure they sucked, etc/.
and #4, at some point, you have to figure they knew NOTHING positive would come out of touting a certain concert because the fans would read too much into it.

and we would. but i wish there was more JERRY on the subject.... from what i can tell he had the time of his life on The Festival Express Tour, and there are comments about some of the big concerts like woodstock, new years eves, winterland 74.

but not much else.... like VERY LITTLE from 75-89.... there is just not a lot from the band on these years.....

good topic, thanks.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 13, 2009 12:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

In Phil's book "Searching for the Sound" I'm pretty sure he makes reference to the Augusta, Maine 1984 shows as being especially good. (He's correct.)

I'd love to track down what MidnightSun was saying about Weir's comments on late fall '77 (10/29/77, Bobby? ;-)

I still find it hard to believe the band doesn't automatically talk about '77 being an incredibly hot year....maybe they don't want to draw unfavorable comparisons to later years?

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Poster: skies Date: Oct 14, 2009 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

Ooops ,I forgot Grandelchoice as fav .Total :six or seven (W.Tell old time only ), as my favorite deadheads here . A meager crop of old fashion gentlrmen such as I used to meet as deadheads in the 80's ! Another brand of deadheads nowadays ,vulgar ,cranky ,intolerant , with not an ounce of fun left with their worned out postures .Nevermind them , last night I had a dream so real ,tho : got invited to a halloween party in the country ,by Bobby Weir and all his friends ,all disguised as cowboys ! A blast of fun party with about 50 deadheads !

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 14, 2009 8:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

What's your favorite Bobby "Cowboy" tune?

I still think "Me and My Uncle" (my favorite) is a great song...always played well and tells a great story with an actual punch-line ending!

"Mama Tried" is my 2nd choice, although technically that's a Merl Haggard song.

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Oct 14, 2009 9:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

....Cherish well your thoughts and keep a tight fist on your boots,cause thinkin and drinkin are all I have today !

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Oct 14, 2009 9:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

I always thought it was "tight grip on your booze"

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 14, 2009 9:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

i thought so as well. hmmmmmm. either one fits pretty well though. guess i will relisten to a couple and see what my half-deaf ears discern.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 14, 2009 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

I'm pretty sure it's "booze"....the rest of the lyric makes more sense that way, "cherish well your thoughts-- "thinkin'"--and keep a tight grip on your booze-- "DRINKIN'" are all you have today.

Fun song either way.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Oct 14, 2009 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

good call grendel - you are right - that makes perfect sense!!

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Oct 14, 2009 9:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Dead on The Dead

Never seen the lyrics in print so I guess I should go there. Booze sounds more in keeping w/ the subject matter but I've always known the song as Boots. I always figured that after a hard night of drinking, your passed out and a cowboy comes by sees your boots w/ better soles than his. You wake up not only w/ an underage girl and a hangover but w/ a pair of old brokedown hole in the sole boots.
99% I'm way off-base and booze is the word (or is bird the word http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184 ) ?

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